logiclife
05-03 12:56 PM
Dish,
Everyone here on this forum understands the frustration of H4 limitations.
However, to say that IV has not done anything beyond media publicity is far from truth.
I hope that you read the "Amendments" link on the homepage(top).
These amendments sponsored by Sen. Brownback and co-sponsored be Sen. Alexander and Bingaman DID NOT HAPPEN AUTOMATICALLY.
And they did not come from other organization or lobbying firm. They were introduced to the comprehensive bill on April 7(Just before recess) SOLELY due to efforts of IV, QGA, AAPI and the good staff at Brownback's office.
I have to point this out because by saying that "IV has not done anything besides media publicity" is not true and it discourages people who have spent hundreds of dollars of OWN money to travel to Washington DC and lobby for these amendments. On top of that, core group members HAVE taken UNPAID TIME OFF FROM THEIR WORK to travel to DC. These things are not easy to get done. Unfortunately there is a partisan env now in Senate and the Comp bill's future is uncertain but had that bill been passed in Senate, it would have had amendments that come from nowhere else BUT Immigration voice.
So please be kind to the group and have patience. H4 applicants have a bad situation, but there are some in our membership who have been laid off after 6th year and are looking to go back to India as their current employer would withdraw the pending labor. So these guys are GOING BACK to country of origin along with their H4 SPOUSES. Things could be a lot worse and one should be mindful that everyone has problems in their lives.
thanks.
Everyone here on this forum understands the frustration of H4 limitations.
However, to say that IV has not done anything beyond media publicity is far from truth.
I hope that you read the "Amendments" link on the homepage(top).
These amendments sponsored by Sen. Brownback and co-sponsored be Sen. Alexander and Bingaman DID NOT HAPPEN AUTOMATICALLY.
And they did not come from other organization or lobbying firm. They were introduced to the comprehensive bill on April 7(Just before recess) SOLELY due to efforts of IV, QGA, AAPI and the good staff at Brownback's office.
I have to point this out because by saying that "IV has not done anything besides media publicity" is not true and it discourages people who have spent hundreds of dollars of OWN money to travel to Washington DC and lobby for these amendments. On top of that, core group members HAVE taken UNPAID TIME OFF FROM THEIR WORK to travel to DC. These things are not easy to get done. Unfortunately there is a partisan env now in Senate and the Comp bill's future is uncertain but had that bill been passed in Senate, it would have had amendments that come from nowhere else BUT Immigration voice.
So please be kind to the group and have patience. H4 applicants have a bad situation, but there are some in our membership who have been laid off after 6th year and are looking to go back to India as their current employer would withdraw the pending labor. So these guys are GOING BACK to country of origin along with their H4 SPOUSES. Things could be a lot worse and one should be mindful that everyone has problems in their lives.
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gemini23
09-27 03:57 PM
got my receipts today.
Case Details:
i-485/EAD/AP sent on 7/25 and reached NSC on 7/26 for my self and my wife.
i-140 still pending at NSC.
Got the receipts for all 6 cases from lawyer today.
i-485 for me and my wife got transfered to TSC and pending.
Case status shows Received on 7/26 and EAD approved for me and my wife from TSC on 09/26.
AP pending in TSC.
Case Details:
i-485/EAD/AP sent on 7/25 and reached NSC on 7/26 for my self and my wife.
i-140 still pending at NSC.
Got the receipts for all 6 cases from lawyer today.
i-485 for me and my wife got transfered to TSC and pending.
Case status shows Received on 7/26 and EAD approved for me and my wife from TSC on 09/26.
AP pending in TSC.
TheOmbudsman
10-25 10:51 AM
Hi,
If the Dems win control of the Senate, I expect no major changes for us. The amnesty bills are already passed easily in the Senate as is anyway. That doesn't change anything for us there.
In the House, this will be a close race. Even if Dems barely win in the House, what is less likely, then they may well find themselves struggling again to get major votes for the amnesty bills. Remember that the amnesty bills got rejected in the House by large margin - and - enforcement only bills got approved there widely. Our stand alone SKULL bill - not sure whether that will be considered by Democrats. Democrats will probably address the Dream Act before they take over the SKULL bill. Let them pass Dream Act, and then we, the Employment Base applicants will be in a real dream for a long time.
It won't be easy, folks.
Thanks,
Your Friendly Ombudsman bringing you a dose of daily reality.
Dude,
At least with DEMS there is close to surety of passing one Immigration Bill even if it is CIR.... With REPs, we will never see any bill the light of day... Not sure which world you live in but check out numbersusa site and you will see how they are trying to decrease the immigration - legal or illegal alike.... So while Skill will go through Senate, it will be again blocked in house like it was in Dec2005........ So bottomline is that I would rather have some bill passed and have a hope in sight than no bill and never know if one will ever get GC
If the Dems win control of the Senate, I expect no major changes for us. The amnesty bills are already passed easily in the Senate as is anyway. That doesn't change anything for us there.
In the House, this will be a close race. Even if Dems barely win in the House, what is less likely, then they may well find themselves struggling again to get major votes for the amnesty bills. Remember that the amnesty bills got rejected in the House by large margin - and - enforcement only bills got approved there widely. Our stand alone SKULL bill - not sure whether that will be considered by Democrats. Democrats will probably address the Dream Act before they take over the SKULL bill. Let them pass Dream Act, and then we, the Employment Base applicants will be in a real dream for a long time.
It won't be easy, folks.
Thanks,
Your Friendly Ombudsman bringing you a dose of daily reality.
Dude,
At least with DEMS there is close to surety of passing one Immigration Bill even if it is CIR.... With REPs, we will never see any bill the light of day... Not sure which world you live in but check out numbersusa site and you will see how they are trying to decrease the immigration - legal or illegal alike.... So while Skill will go through Senate, it will be again blocked in house like it was in Dec2005........ So bottomline is that I would rather have some bill passed and have a hope in sight than no bill and never know if one will ever get GC
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07-27 07:15 AM
LEGAL AND STUCK IN - 7 YRS. ILLEGAL AND SNUCK IN - 7 MINS. CHOOSE!
It is a fact that EB3 India is a FORGOTTEN category. There appears to be a sense of intra-category elitism within the larger community that comes together at IV. EB3 I's make feeble attempts to be heard and some take a shot at innovative marketing campaigns to call attention to the plight of being stuck for over 6 ot 7 years in some cases. EB2 I's immediately respond with a self protectionist attitude and preach a higher calling that focuses on comprehensive solutions instead of piecemeal solutions. EB1 I's obviously choose to remain outside the fray, since these are matter of concern to vox populi, not them.
Some EB2's and EB3's then analyse the hell out of USCIS logic, to the extent that they could become full time spin meisters for ANY public organization. With very little fact, a healthy dose of opinion and a mish mash of 'logic', they piece together their 'strong' arguments -one way or the other.
Lost in this useless din of irrelevant analysis paralysis is the real misery of thousands of EB3 I's (such as myself) that have been stuck for years for no fault of ours. By the way, I happen to be a highly educated (for those that care) Executive that went to Top Private Universities in the US that happens to be stuck in EB3 ONLY because the company HR rep and lawyer at the time, chose to go down this path. POint being, there is no reason for EB2 I's to pontificate from a sense of elitist protectionism because there are EB3 I's like me that can outsmart a bunch of you in no time. Seriously. (This is for those that preach that if you are 'smart' you should be in EB2. Go read those threads).
So bottomline, let us stop behaving like CIS vs Anti CIS camps and instead UNITE towards the common cause. Let EB3I's air their frustrations. If you can come to help, do so. If not, stay out of it completely. No more half ass 'logic', please.
Thanks!
It is a fact that EB3 India is a FORGOTTEN category. There appears to be a sense of intra-category elitism within the larger community that comes together at IV. EB3 I's make feeble attempts to be heard and some take a shot at innovative marketing campaigns to call attention to the plight of being stuck for over 6 ot 7 years in some cases. EB2 I's immediately respond with a self protectionist attitude and preach a higher calling that focuses on comprehensive solutions instead of piecemeal solutions. EB1 I's obviously choose to remain outside the fray, since these are matter of concern to vox populi, not them.
Some EB2's and EB3's then analyse the hell out of USCIS logic, to the extent that they could become full time spin meisters for ANY public organization. With very little fact, a healthy dose of opinion and a mish mash of 'logic', they piece together their 'strong' arguments -one way or the other.
Lost in this useless din of irrelevant analysis paralysis is the real misery of thousands of EB3 I's (such as myself) that have been stuck for years for no fault of ours. By the way, I happen to be a highly educated (for those that care) Executive that went to Top Private Universities in the US that happens to be stuck in EB3 ONLY because the company HR rep and lawyer at the time, chose to go down this path. POint being, there is no reason for EB2 I's to pontificate from a sense of elitist protectionism because there are EB3 I's like me that can outsmart a bunch of you in no time. Seriously. (This is for those that preach that if you are 'smart' you should be in EB2. Go read those threads).
So bottomline, let us stop behaving like CIS vs Anti CIS camps and instead UNITE towards the common cause. Let EB3I's air their frustrations. If you can come to help, do so. If not, stay out of it completely. No more half ass 'logic', please.
Thanks!
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gc28262
06-28 10:48 AM
desi,
I am not trying to make an argument here. I am saying what I am seeing in law.
Security Clearance.
I didn't say GC holder can get security clearance. I was listing one scenario where employer is exempt from the requirement as per law.
<quote>
Now, if you think, even after reading these documents that employer can be forced to file for H-1B at the time of hiring, I can suggest put your question in lawyers forum.
</quote>
On a practical note, if the company has sponsored H1Bs in the past, what justification can the company give for not filing another H1B ?
Practically there are many ways a company can avoid hiring an H1B or GC if they want to. But the point is, as per law that is illegal.
I am not trying to make an argument here. I am saying what I am seeing in law.
Security Clearance.
I didn't say GC holder can get security clearance. I was listing one scenario where employer is exempt from the requirement as per law.
<quote>
Now, if you think, even after reading these documents that employer can be forced to file for H-1B at the time of hiring, I can suggest put your question in lawyers forum.
</quote>
On a practical note, if the company has sponsored H1Bs in the past, what justification can the company give for not filing another H1B ?
Practically there are many ways a company can avoid hiring an H1B or GC if they want to. But the point is, as per law that is illegal.
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11-17 03:21 PM
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thomachan72
02-01 12:59 PM
Finally we have decided to go back to India for good. I filed my EB3 in May 2003. Its going to be another 4 years to get the green card. When I went to India for vacation last December, we liked it over there & the economy is booming. There are all sorts of discussion regarding the Economic Gap/Politics/Corruption/Cleanliness. But we like it over there. Finally I will have an option to do something interesting. In US I was very much dependent on my monthly pay check and afraid to take even the slightest risk. I am also scared to use the AC21(Hey, thats the way I am). I am working with the same company for last 10 years, kinda stagnant in the last 4 years. In India, there are lots of choices, either to work for a sw company or start some business on my own. I think I will take the business route.
May be I can go there, earn well, send my son to US for college, do green card through him & come retire in US!!!
Good Luck to everybody!!
I guess you have decided after lots of thoughts so "all the best of luck". Do you have kids? what age group if you do? just curious
Wondering how they would adjust to the tests, languages, discipline etc etc
May be I can go there, earn well, send my son to US for college, do green card through him & come retire in US!!!
Good Luck to everybody!!
I guess you have decided after lots of thoughts so "all the best of luck". Do you have kids? what age group if you do? just curious
Wondering how they would adjust to the tests, languages, discipline etc etc
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InTheMoment
08-01 08:35 PM
Since it reached before July 30 it can reach anywhere !
Though I would say pray for TSC !
On July 25th lawyer sent my documents 140 & 485 concurrent, PD port from previous I-140 approval (approved at Nebraska).
Reached Nebraska Service Centre on July 26th.
Will it be processed at Nebraska Service centre or Texas Service centre? According to new direct filing instructions my employer and my residence comes under Texas Service centre.
Though I would say pray for TSC !
On July 25th lawyer sent my documents 140 & 485 concurrent, PD port from previous I-140 approval (approved at Nebraska).
Reached Nebraska Service Centre on July 26th.
Will it be processed at Nebraska Service centre or Texas Service centre? According to new direct filing instructions my employer and my residence comes under Texas Service centre.
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mirage
07-08 12:21 PM
Previous years Oct Visa Bulletins doesn't look encouraging at all, EB-3 India moved by a week and other categories move by a month or 2. With USCIS taking huge no. of applications in june'07 the future of oct'07 seems to be pretty bleak, It is quiet depressing. We surely need this legislation of ability to file 485 even if visa dates not current.
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senthil1
05-24 01:39 AM
Another reason was IV was relying on skil bill but when point system is used Skil bill does not fit into it. They threw it away. Also skil bill was asking exemptions for MS and STEM apart from increase in numbers(Congress never gave exemption from Cap except spouses of citizens). It might be better with just giving numbers so that only one provision was there. I think now IV is asking only numbers of green card and this campaign has better chance of success(atleast some increase in numbers). But if we focus multiple things(Involving in H1b issues and other smaller issues) at the same time then it may be tough to achieve.
Vijjus, this is coming from a veteran:
There is not such out of touch or education needed to be done. Congressmen are well aware of the plight of legal immigrants way before than immigrationvoice.org dreamed of existence. We fought hard in order to educate congressmen and often their staff played dumb, but again the truth is that they never cared about our plight.
The reality is that this, as usual, is primarily driven by business needs. Major employers such as Bill Gates lobby mainly for H1B numbers increase. Employers are very much aware that H1B staff under pressure can put up and deliver the very long journey of 60-80h/week expected at Microsoft. Yes, Microsoft and many other major employers could easily find qualified US students with two years of experience, skills by the way comparable to what the vast majorities of H1B's offer, but Americans who do not need the H1B would give a finger to any employer who would expect that an American would work 80h/week for 55K/year.
The illegal aliens are being backed by major employers of cheap labor, such as Wall Mart and many others. Illegals also can put extra long hours and therefore they yield more output for less investiment. That's is the reason that US employers seem to fight so consistently to keep them here.
I estimate that immigrationvoice.org efforts do not count for 0.5% of the final result of this bill. As a matter of fact, chances are more we fight and protest, more people will be outrageous and scared and will call *their* congressmen even harder in order to push us out.
For the naive and dreamers out there who are shaking their heads after reading the above and believe that employers cannot find qualified applicants, so just answer this:
How many million dollars per year are the top management of Fortune 500 companies making? The US is not about drastic wages inequalities. This is about paying a fair salary, otherwise we have increasing salary inequality and this should be renamed then to Mexico, India or something like that.
Thanks,
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Vijjus, this is coming from a veteran:
There is not such out of touch or education needed to be done. Congressmen are well aware of the plight of legal immigrants way before than immigrationvoice.org dreamed of existence. We fought hard in order to educate congressmen and often their staff played dumb, but again the truth is that they never cared about our plight.
The reality is that this, as usual, is primarily driven by business needs. Major employers such as Bill Gates lobby mainly for H1B numbers increase. Employers are very much aware that H1B staff under pressure can put up and deliver the very long journey of 60-80h/week expected at Microsoft. Yes, Microsoft and many other major employers could easily find qualified US students with two years of experience, skills by the way comparable to what the vast majorities of H1B's offer, but Americans who do not need the H1B would give a finger to any employer who would expect that an American would work 80h/week for 55K/year.
The illegal aliens are being backed by major employers of cheap labor, such as Wall Mart and many others. Illegals also can put extra long hours and therefore they yield more output for less investiment. That's is the reason that US employers seem to fight so consistently to keep them here.
I estimate that immigrationvoice.org efforts do not count for 0.5% of the final result of this bill. As a matter of fact, chances are more we fight and protest, more people will be outrageous and scared and will call *their* congressmen even harder in order to push us out.
For the naive and dreamers out there who are shaking their heads after reading the above and believe that employers cannot find qualified applicants, so just answer this:
How many million dollars per year are the top management of Fortune 500 companies making? The US is not about drastic wages inequalities. This is about paying a fair salary, otherwise we have increasing salary inequality and this should be renamed then to Mexico, India or something like that.
Thanks,
Tito Ortiz
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GCBy3000
04-06 02:56 PM
Well said eager_immi. Getting GC and getting job and earning is not the only thing in life. I have seen many many couple who are gc holders and citizens, giving up their career to bring up the kids for the first few years. This segment includes US citizens ( US Origin) too. Most the of the americans here have their spouse at home to take care of their kids first few years. It is not worth anybody's time and money to have a kid and put them in daycare from day one and go out and earn and pay half of it to daycare and the remaining half you are left with is not even come close to the amout of time you spent away with the new born who needs your warmth and does not have words to express. So the time spent with your new born for the first few years is priceless compared to the dollar you dream to earn at the cost of having child.
Enough of above, even my wife is CPA and we are married for 5 years now. She came to US dreaming about working in professional CPA firm. But my ignorance about GC process then cost her her career. She was depressed initially. I am an easy go guy and convinced her not to worry much about job. We planned and now we have 3+ year girl and a 3 weeks+ boy. Her mind is all set towards taking care of our kids and I am free from those job hunting depressions. Once both of our kids reaches 5+, she may again start to think about career. May be by then, by Gods grace, I hope to have my GC. I bought a house this year and we all live happily knowing all the uncertanites of H1. We knew it is risk to buy a house. But ultimately what is going to happen. Is anyone going to behead you in case you default or loose job? What the heck, file bankruptcy and go back to home country. At least the days we live here, we live in peace and enjoy. If you have this mindset, you will think clearly and will take positive decisions. Otherwise, everyday is hell in US for immigrants with the current GC process.
Getting GC and earning is not everything. It is only very very small part of life. Forget about it and live today's life with what you have. Worry about things which you can control. All other things will follow you automatically. Having kids is in your hand and you have to have this sooner or later. Always, sooner the better and you can use this retrogression as an opportunity to execute those projects instead of worrying over it. GOOD LUCK.
Listen, everyone is frustrated but to take your lives for a GC is crazy. If you guys are so depressed please seek medical help. If you have kids they will be US citizens they can sponsor you 18 years later so why are you that frustrated. When your wife is on H4 that is the best time to have kids because she is at home and you don't have to pay daycare. It is the woman in H1B that my sympathies are with bc they cannot go part-time or get more that 6 week maternity leave. So please buckle up or seek help, I don’t think your logic makes sense.
Enough of above, even my wife is CPA and we are married for 5 years now. She came to US dreaming about working in professional CPA firm. But my ignorance about GC process then cost her her career. She was depressed initially. I am an easy go guy and convinced her not to worry much about job. We planned and now we have 3+ year girl and a 3 weeks+ boy. Her mind is all set towards taking care of our kids and I am free from those job hunting depressions. Once both of our kids reaches 5+, she may again start to think about career. May be by then, by Gods grace, I hope to have my GC. I bought a house this year and we all live happily knowing all the uncertanites of H1. We knew it is risk to buy a house. But ultimately what is going to happen. Is anyone going to behead you in case you default or loose job? What the heck, file bankruptcy and go back to home country. At least the days we live here, we live in peace and enjoy. If you have this mindset, you will think clearly and will take positive decisions. Otherwise, everyday is hell in US for immigrants with the current GC process.
Getting GC and earning is not everything. It is only very very small part of life. Forget about it and live today's life with what you have. Worry about things which you can control. All other things will follow you automatically. Having kids is in your hand and you have to have this sooner or later. Always, sooner the better and you can use this retrogression as an opportunity to execute those projects instead of worrying over it. GOOD LUCK.
Listen, everyone is frustrated but to take your lives for a GC is crazy. If you guys are so depressed please seek medical help. If you have kids they will be US citizens they can sponsor you 18 years later so why are you that frustrated. When your wife is on H4 that is the best time to have kids because she is at home and you don't have to pay daycare. It is the woman in H1B that my sympathies are with bc they cannot go part-time or get more that 6 week maternity leave. So please buckle up or seek help, I don’t think your logic makes sense.
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johnamit
08-18 01:13 PM
I think we have a provable point as per the USCIS CSR msg "We approve all cases based on the order they are received". So basically it says Approval based on ND. Approving Oct'07 NDs and not approving (not even touching) Jul-Sep NDs makes a valid point.
I am not sure how to put our case based on PD because to me PD serves the purpose of passport to get in and then line is formed by ND. But sure, if anyone could put some thoughts and define the situation, I think its well worth to try something different now.
I am not sure how to put our case based on PD because to me PD serves the purpose of passport to get in and then line is formed by ND. But sure, if anyone could put some thoughts and define the situation, I think its well worth to try something different now.
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SGP
11-18 01:56 PM
"There is no harm in trying. Leave no stone unturned."
This may sound optimistic and promising, but in essence sending random rhetoric using off message statements like "Erase Backlog Now" conflicts with our targeted messaging. To the observer on the Hill (i.e. in Congress) it all sounds more like a noise without a coherent message.
I'm sure you would agree that "no harm in trying" and "Leave no stone unturned" doesn't mean diluting our effort or sending incoherent message. That is why we need to have a single voice sending the same targeted message each time, otherwise we will just sound like awkward noise.
Can't agree less. We all have one goal. We are all one voice. In my personal opinion, I always try and stay optimistic.
This may sound optimistic and promising, but in essence sending random rhetoric using off message statements like "Erase Backlog Now" conflicts with our targeted messaging. To the observer on the Hill (i.e. in Congress) it all sounds more like a noise without a coherent message.
I'm sure you would agree that "no harm in trying" and "Leave no stone unturned" doesn't mean diluting our effort or sending incoherent message. That is why we need to have a single voice sending the same targeted message each time, otherwise we will just sound like awkward noise.
Can't agree less. We all have one goal. We are all one voice. In my personal opinion, I always try and stay optimistic.
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eyeopeners05@yahoo.com
05-28 10:13 AM
Hi all,
If i takeup candian pr and discontinue my h1b, can i enter usa using the canadian pr for visit purposes if i ever wanted to ?
I have a home here and may need to visit once in a while.
Thanks
If i takeup candian pr and discontinue my h1b, can i enter usa using the canadian pr for visit purposes if i ever wanted to ?
I have a home here and may need to visit once in a while.
Thanks
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abq_gc
08-18 02:38 PM
hey NC14... why dont u come and fight for my GC then....... since ur not so worried abt yurs........ why are u even visiting these forums.. if ur not so concerned....
agreed... that we have to take up everyone's cause.. but well charity begins at home...
agreed... that we have to take up everyone's cause.. but well charity begins at home...
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lonedesi
05-23 08:20 AM
Sent emails to all senators as requested by IV
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saro28
10-01 02:55 PM
Recv'd both EAD & AP. When can I expect Finger Printing notice?
s_r_e_e
08-26 03:50 PM
Thanks unitednations.
unitednations was sharing valuable insight about the H1B denial trend in the begning. Then, every one started dragging him in to useless discussions with all kind of arguments.
How does it matter now?. Whether the mess was caused by desi companies alone or with the help of some guys who got H1 for their wife , brother, mother and the local policeman who learned SAP in a week, the damage is already done.
let us stay on the topic, please
unitednations was sharing valuable insight about the H1B denial trend in the begning. Then, every one started dragging him in to useless discussions with all kind of arguments.
How does it matter now?. Whether the mess was caused by desi companies alone or with the help of some guys who got H1 for their wife , brother, mother and the local policeman who learned SAP in a week, the damage is already done.
let us stay on the topic, please
manishcp
09-14 02:30 PM
was it texas or NSC ?
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